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Eileen Marie Duffy's avatar

His explanation/excuse was the profit motive.

He had to be a believer to sleep at night.

Thought proud boys were hobbyists like neo-nazism is a hobby.

I will treat and talk to maga apostates with civility, but their dishonor will remain.

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Arthur Stout's avatar

“How people seeking to help loved ones still in MAGA can approach conversations with empathy and understanding”

Like an intervention? Haha

thank you for making me laugh this morning.

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A.J. Fish's avatar

Great find in a guest. Look at his website, all the fellow leavers, and their diaries.

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David Hauber's avatar

Incredibly insightful!

I had given up hope for ever again talking to MAGA (former) friends and relatives but this inspires me to at least attempt to find some common ground. We used to be friends.

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An Mcgreevy's avatar

For me it’s not maga, at least they have passion, it is the too polite for politics women who are vacuous bores and traitors.

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David Levine's avatar

Comforting to hear this eloquent fellow tell his story. Good work that he’s trying so hard to help.

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DAVID MCROBERTS's avatar

I'm downloading this on my FB with this note:

If any of you have (or had) good friends

who are believing Christians and Trumpsters:

I just listened to a podcast that included more

clues to this chasm than anything I've seen or heard

since 2016. I'm going to post it and re-post it

for a while, at least until I hear from someone

else who has listened to it.

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