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Pirates, Feminism, and the Future of Care

Pirates, Feminism, and the Future of Care

A conversation with Nika Dubrovsky

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Mar 07, 2025
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You’re listening to What Rough Beast! Out now: episode 12.

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We are Virginia Heffernan and Stephen Metcalf, and today we’re talking with Nika Dubrovsky, artist, author and founder of the Museum of Care with her late husband, the anthropologist David Graeber. We discuss:

⭐️ The collapse of empires: Nika draws fascinating parallels between the fall of the Sov…

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